Is there an anscestor your looking for ? or that has eluded you in the Census? why not leave a message and ask if anyone knows your folki ! you never know , there could be relative reading the page you dont evan know about! And if I can help anyone I will as I have lots of records that are not on my web site due to space ! I would never be able to fit them all on !! I also have most of the old books so any questions just ask or write down your queries Kushti Bokt to you all.
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hello all
can any1 help me im looking for the 1841 census for gilderoy wharton but had no luck up to now but some1 has told me that the only census in 1841 that got taken was them in houses and i no for a fact that they werent in a house thanks kellyann
Does anyone know if the christian name 'ILIFF' (Iliff) is gypsy/romany? (family surname was Randle).
Hounslow, Middx and Southwark areas.
Also does anyone know if the HATTON family ' of Aston Rowant, Oxford circa 1841 - 1891. Henry Hatton b: 1803 is described variously as a "Carrier" or "London Carrier" in censuses. Daughter Susannah Celestine married into the local Deverell family abt. 1881.
many thanks for any help.
Does anyone know if the christian name 'ILIFF' (Iliff) is gypsy/romany? (family surname was Randle).
Hounslow, Middx and Southwark areas.
Also does anyone know if the HATTON family ' of Aston Rowant, Oxford circa 1841 - 1891. Henry Hatton b: 1803 is described variously as a "Carrier" or "London Carrier" in censuses. Daughter Susannah Celestine married into the local Deverell family abt. 1881.
many thanks for any help.
Hello,
Could some kind soul point me in the direction of my Grandparents, Walter Whiteley and Mary Ellen. They were in Cowhill Chadderton in 1899 when their first son Walter was born 'in a van on a fiarground' and in Nottingham in 1902 when their second child was born, Florence Lily. By 1911 they were on the Long Eaton Recreational ground.
My Grandfather describes himself as a Travelling Showman, I believe he had a Showman's caravan made for him in Burton-on-Trent.
Yours in gratitude.
rennieschal
Hi,
I am looking for information on my 3 x great grandfather James Ball born about 1823. His parents were William and Sarah Ball, they seemed to have moved all over Leicestershire/Linciolnshire area. James married Mary Norman in Bedfordshire in 1840 and they had a few a children but he seems to have disappeared into thin air after that. Thks James
Has any one heard of the name Aspey Jones?
Stephen Doe
Hello,
I am hoping you can help please. Can you tell me if there is a place or area in Hampshire named BINSTEAD ? but NOT the one in the Isle of Wight OR is there another place in the UK
My son in law has a story that his great/great gran was a Romany, obviously it could be incorrect but I will just give a few details. Son in Law Steve thought all his family were from West Wales (about 10 miles north of Swansea) With his gr. grdads details I was surprised to find his CAVE relatives hailed from Castle Carey and Wincanton areas, and when i checked the marriage ...... it was found in south wales near Swansea which was a shock.
We were even more surprised that his wife was living in a cottage again outside Swansea. I checked her birth from marriage cert and it would have been 1881 to the Census and she was shown as being born in BINSTEAD, when I sent to Isle of Wight not found. I checked a gazeteer and I am sure I saw another Binstead possibly in the West Country ? When i put it on the internet I am sure that YOUR Romany page came on BUT I now cannot get it back, I am sure that your page stated that many Romanies stayed/lived there, was i correct ?
The lady's sur name was KNIGHT Georganna/Georgiana Elizabeth Mary, father GEORGE, now was this the Romany lady? or was it her mother maybe. My big problem is her dad GEORGE is always seen as a railway worker and nothing mentioning Romany work ? Is it possible that he took her away from the Romanies (doubtful) and they went to Wales far enough away.. Any details really appreciated hanks
Hi Sue,
have a look for a solomon cooper father francis cooper marriage on the london marriages, its romany, around the 1860's i think it was, was solomon the son of francis who went back and forth to America? hope you well, Stephen
Hi gracey my family is from the Andover hampshire area if you had there names we maybe able to help you Good luck with your search
Hi gracey my family is from the Andover hampshire area if you had there names we maybe able to help you Good luck with your search
Hi,
I am looking to trace a rumour if possible to be true about two members of my family. They have been referred to as Gypsies in the family, their surnames were Mayo and they were from Ireland, they were my Great Great Grandfather and Great Great Grandmother. Were these people Romani or just Irish travellers? One man who works with Romany people, commented that my mother has Romany features, I have photos of both my family members in question if needed - I do not not know much about them at all except that they came from Ireland and moved to the west midlands. I would appreciate any help in my journey to find out more. My mother has noticed we have used words in ourlanguage like 'Mush', and 'Orff'. My mother was also given a charm bracelet when she was 21 which she still has. I am very eager to find out and also I find the Romany people journey and language quite interesting. By the way I have a an interest in languages generally, and have found a lot of other words in Romany which come from other languages such as 'shoshoi' Rabbit - found in the Marathi Language!
Ach Devlesa!
Mark
Hello I would like contact with someone who can lead me to families from in or around Andover,Hampshire.. I am looking for information from 1969/1970.. Its a long shot but a starting point....Unfortunetly I do not have surnames just yet...Any links would be appreciated..
Tracy04 If you look at the census image it becomes fairly obvious that it is a very poorly written Rosy, The transcriber writes down what they think the see - John
Thankyou John it did help abit but was confusing because my cousin came over and on the census the family was all the same apart from my Gran on there her name is Basy Blackburn but on her birth certificate its Rose Emily Blackburn but thankyou for your help
Hi Lorraine
Sarah and Frank Vincent were my great great grandfather (jack, listed on census as Job) parents they lived in Epsom for most of their lives, travelling to reigate and kent occasionally ( my email address is caroline2hicks@aol.com if you want to chat)
hi all
jock you said that you think the 1841 census was only people in houses well its not as ive come across travellers in tents on fields on the 1841 census so im putting it down to the surname WHARTON as on all the other census ive got its spelt different ive got some info on the whartons that ill share with yous right here goes
my gggg grandad is gilderoy wharton born 1799 harperlane dorset he had 2 brothers and 3 sisters [well what ive found upto now] they are john wharton born bout 1795 meachic wharton born bout 1805 harriette wharton anna wharton and louisa wharton. His parents are john and fanny wharton nee stanley gilderoys brother meachic married merilla boswell [on the 1851 census she is down as marraby] she is the daughter of ned or edward and phillis boswell. im positive they went to america in the 1850s. john married carnation lee they had a son called uriah born 1816 in shropshire he married bathsheba born 1819 they had 3 kids called louisa caroline and hugh. dont no anything about anna and louisa but harriette married owen stanley they moved to america and i now of 1 son they had called levi stanley. right movin on to gilderoy he married christina lee [carnations sister] but on all the census she is down as bein called mary they had a grandaughter called jemima wharton we thought she was gilderoys daughter up until bout 2 month ago when we got her birth certificate and it said that elijah wharton was her dad and her mam was called spicey ann wharton nee walton so we think elijah is gilderoys son but thats the only thing that hes on hes not on the 1851 census but jemima is so did he die or was he in prison or somethink and where was her mam now on her marrage certificate it says that gilderoy is her dad. im thinking that her mam [spicey ann] died in child birth and her dad [elijah] was either in prison died or nashed n jemima was to young to remember her mam and dad so gilderoy and christina or mary whatever her name was just made out as if they were her mam and dad i really really need some help on this i hope that the info ive wrote will help if u want to email me my address is KELLYANNSCOTT@LIVE.CO.UK hope to here from you folk soon kelly ann
tracey04 check your e-mail I did find your gran in 1911 with her family her name was not transcribed properly I sent you the details - the e-mail may be in your spam - John
I am looking for info on a yard was called parkers yard..in hexham i know my ma was born on there around 1925 ........her name was white
frank25 2010.2.21 20:17
i am from the white family in the northumberland area place called hexham...my mother lived on a site near the bull ring hexham in the early 1900 is there anybody out there no of a site and if so do they have many pic info family named white this are who are travellers.
lookin for anyone descended from" Frederick Lovell Wells Rogers" anyone who kno the rogers family london area
Hello Teresa
Im related to Andrew Dighton and Caroline Smith.
If you would like to Email Me we could have a chat.
My email address deborah.watson1@sky.com
Speak Soon
Debbie
Thankyou John i will send for the birth certificate that should help out more also i have found out that my Gran was married before to William Mould and they had a child im not sure of all the dates tho because all has now passed on and thats when my Gran re-married to Albert Tester
Tracy04 - I think the step you need to take is to send for your Grandmothers birth certificate from the GRO this will give you the mothers name and also her formerly name, It should also show you her fathers name and his occupation although on some this information may not have been given at the birth registration, I could not find your Grandmother for certain in the 1911 census, she could have been on the Isle of Wight staying with relations. If you decide to send for her birth certificate this seems to be the information you will need, Name: Rose Emily Blackburn, Year of Registration: 1903, Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar, District: Andover, Volume: 2c, Page: 233.
Good Luck. - John
Hi Kelly
I believe that the 1841 Census only noted those in houses, i have not been able to find either
Hi
Has anyone any knowledge of the vincent family Frank bormn 1847 married to Sarah. I have found them on Census 1901 and 1881. As Hawkers ad travelling gypsies. There appears to be a lot of refernces to Epsom common. Would appreciate anyone with any info regarding this famiy as i am a descendant.
thanks
I have found out abit more my grans name was ROSE EMILY BLACKBURN BORN 04-02-1903 and my grandad was ALBERT TESTER 18-08-1885 i always thought my gran was ROSEMARY WHITE would love to find more about my mums side of the family
Hi Tracy, Ok I do not have another Rosemary in our White family so far! The family settled around Christchurch and Thorney Hill, I do have a fair amount of information on them, but to get help you really need to post some more specific dates and indicate if the names given for your mother and gran are their maiden or married name's, The more information you can give the better chance any one has of identifying your family and helping you.
Good Luck with your search.
Hi john it cant be the same ROSEMARY WHITE im not sure of my Grans date of birth but my mum was born in 1930.
Tracey04 Can you give us any idea of a date for ROSEMARY WHITE? birth or marriage, we do have one in our family born New Forest 1946.
Regards, John
Hi all im trying to find my mums side of the family as far as i know my mum came from the new forest hampshire my mums name was EDNA TESTER and my grans name was ROSEMARY WHITE PLEASE CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH MY ROOTS
I AM RESEARCHING MY FATHERS FAMILY HE CAME FROM THE GREGORY FAMILY (EDWIN GREGORY WHO MARRIED AMY HOADLEY) ANY HELP WOULD BE GOOD I HAVE LOTS OF PHOTOS THEY LIVED IN HORSELL CAMP ALSO KNOWN AS THE BLACK PATCH,
Hi - I am trying to find any information about a possible romany link in my family: THE WRIGHTS - in 1829 ELIZABETH GRITT married JAMES WRIGHT in Middlesex - I know GRITTS is a romany name - I am just wondering if anyone out there has a link to elizabeth? Sure we have romany connections - would just love to find out more! Thanks all!
I am trying to locate a marriage of John Pitcher born c1799 at Chislet and Clarinda born c1798 in either Lee, Kent, or Blackheath. John was a tinman by profession and it has been suggested that Clarinda was the daughter of Sampson and Celia Scamp, although Rootsweb only shows Sampson having four sons. At the time of the bpt of their first son at Chislet in 1821 John and Clarinda were shown to be of the parish of Ash.
Hi great site btw, which I came across by chance.My question is a long shot. I have been researching my family tree on my mothers side. & I discovered that my grandfathers brother married a Mary Ann Thatcher. From their marriage certificate her Father was William Thatcher.In researching her "history" merely out of interest/background information, I discovered that William Thatcher(Born abt 1850 Gravesend) & his wife Lucy, (born abt 1854 Brighton Sussex) lived in tents Mitcham Common, and were both Hawkers. At that time they had 3 children, Elizabeth (born abt 1872 Gravesend) Lethy Born abt 1874 Plumstead) Later known as Alice & shown as being born in Devon on 1891 census ?:& Moses ( Born abt 1880 Beddington Surrey) Being intrigued I googled Tent Mitcham Common & found this wonderful site. I saw them on this site. I am not sure if they were Romany . They may have just been living there at the time I do not know if this would be allowed ? or would they have to be Romany to live there.? I needed to find Lucy's Maiden name & when they got married if indeed they did. I looked through your BMD indexes on this site under T to see if I could see them but no luck. William later settled in London . Although William and Lucy are not immediate family , I
would be really interested to know any further information anyone could give me. Thankyou
Gill.
To Cicely.
Thank you for your reply, if you would like to ask the site owner for my email address I would love to swap info on the family.
However, I must add I know very little. I am trying to find the maiden name of Roberts wife in order to get back further. Anything you can tell me will help.
I am trying to piece together aspects of my family's movements and connections, I am a Saunders and my family's travelled and lived throughout the South West of the UK. Family connections are the James, Penfold's, Small's and possibly the Orchard's. My Grandfather (Leonard Saunders) is still living at the age of 96, but unfortunately his recollections are not as sharp as they used to be. My grandmother died 20 odd years ago, and her maiden name was James..
Ideally I would like to get some info on both my grandad's and gran's parents and grandparents etc and the subsequent relationships with the other families brought about through marriage etc.. I have snippets of info but more would be useful in order for me to start stitching it all together..
Gary Saunders
Hi
my great grandfather was called James Smith and he lived in Dudley. I know he had various jobs - on one census he was called a marine salesman I think but I also know he dealt in rag and bone and scrap metal and also had a some sort of travelling fair with swingboats etc which he used to take around the country. I would like to to know if he was actually a gypsy or not as I am not sure. He married a Nellie Round and had 13 children, one of which was my grandfather (also James).
Many thanks
Rhonda
GILL, in answer to your querie about Robert Price. I may be able to help a little I have been researching this family for sometime.
hello I am trying to find anything about the griffin family. My mum remembers travelling around the wiltshire area especially aldbourne and wanborough and her dad was george griffin. Any info would be brilliant.
We are still looking for a possible connection we now have found the 1841 census in Hay for a Mary SAVEGAILE who was born in 1779 with a possible daughter Ann born 1813 and a 2 year old grandson? Alfred born 1839 Breconshire
Does anyone recognise any of these do they hold a clue to the Ann born in Worcestershire about 1780 married in Hartlebury 1810?
I do hope some one can help I love a mystery but solving it iwould be better
Hazel
Hi, can anybody help ? I am trying to find a census entry or info about Robert Price born about 1823 Wellington Shropshire. He was married to Mary and I would like to know her maiden name. I have read that many of the Price family emigrated to Canada and Australia.
They had several children including
Cornelius 1849, Robert 1857, Mary Ann 1859, Henry 1863 and Meline 1865.
I have found this entry in 1871 but would like to find earlier info about Robert senior, especially his parents.
Any help gratefully appreciated.
hello ive bein doin my family tree of the whartons n ive hit a brick wall as i cant find the 1841 census for gilderoy wharton ive got all the rest of the census but ive noticed the surname is spelt different on sum of them worton/warton/walton/wiston ive tryed all sorts to find the 1841 census but no luck i thimk that they are around yorkshire or durham area in 1841 cos on the 1851 census they have a daughter jane wharton who was born round about 1837 at rotherham yorkshire then stephen wharton was born round 1841 at ryhope durham anyway here is the 1851 census
gilderoy wiston head 56 basket maker harperlane dorset
mary wife 46 hawker reddleton yorks
johnson son 27 basket maker monk silver somerset
carnation daug 25 hawker red minister devon
oliver son 22 cutter welsh hampton shropshire
louisa daug 24 hawker bridge north shropshire
uriah son 18 basket maker tadcaster yorkshire
mary daug 17 dress maker darlington
jane daug 14 rotherham yorkshire
stephen son 10 basketmaker ryhope durham
bathsheba daug 9 tanfield durham
jemima grandaug 2 evenwood durham
richard grandson 1 sandal yorks
tom nephew 17 basket maker tanfield durham
gilderoys mam n dad are john n fanney worton he has a brother meshesh worton wich ive noticed you have the 1851 census of so i hope that you can hell me to find the 41 census thank you
Hi! am HAYES / ASH DECSCENT
This site is huge! where's best to meet likeminded peolpe/people with the same heritage this year ie 2010? Am in surrey at the moment, flexible though. Thanks and best of luck with your searches too! Am going back through the site till it logs me out again! Anne
Hi
I'm trying to find an Anne Shepherd believed to of gypsy ancestry. Last known addresss was 3 Site, Warmington Road Camp, Lutton, Oundle, Peterborough. This was in 1951. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many Thanks
Sarah
I am looking for anyone who knows of the HONEY FAMILY. My friend talks constantly about her Romany history and life at Mitcham Fair. I think Ada Honey is the name of her Grandmother. Coogan [ Alfred Charles] is her dad. Apparently many cousins and all around the Mitcham/ London area . They lived in the vans. Anybody who can let me know anything would be really fantastic as trying to find family history is really difficult, she has tried many times with so many dead ends.
Hello every1,
i have found a photo of my granfer on here and would like 2 know who has put it on here, hoping they might have more. It is in the PHOTO GALLERIES and in GALLERIE 10. My granfer is kingy (edward) penfold, he was from devon. In the picture is alos his dad, joe penfold and a few others. At the bottom of the picture it says "amey,swedding001" Dont know what this means but hopefully some1 can help. Please email me at : m-e-g@live.co.uk
Many thanks
Hello every1,
i have found a photo of my granfer on here and would like 2 know who has put it on here, hoping they might have more. It is in the PHOTO GALLERIES and in GALLERIE 10. My granfer is kingy (edward) penfold, he was from devon. In the picture is alos his dad, joe penfold and a few others. At the bottom of the picture it says "amey,swedding001" Dont know what this means but hopefully some1 can help. Please email me at : m-e-g@live.co.uk
Many thanks
Hello all.
Im looking for the parents of Sylvia Foot in poole dorset area.
I am using the ancestry site but cant find anything on my nan's parents. I found her mum's maiden name which says Peckham, but doesnt give her first name.
I remember my nan telling me she came from gypsy background, but being so young then I didnt take any notice like you do back when your a kid. I know my nan had 4 sisters called joan, betty, doris and edna. and also a couple of brothers, But unsure of their names.
Would be greatful in any help of any kind.
Many thanks JR xx
I am desperate to find Charlie Harris, traveller around east sussex in the mid sixties. Hailsham, Uckfield, Upper Dicker areas.
He is my father and I need to find any siblings I may have.
I AM TRYING TO TRACE ANY OF THE DIGHTON FAMILY. I KNOW THEY LIVED ON OCCUPATION ROAD BELVEDERE. MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS WERE ANDREW AND CAROLINE (SMITH) MY GRANDPARENTS WERE WILLIAM DIGHTON MARRIED BEATRICE PEARCE AND HER FATHER WAS CHALES. MY DAD WAS SAM AND HAD A BROTHER WILLIAM, ALSO 2 OTHER BROTHERS AND A SISTER THAT DIED VERY YOUNG. HOPE YOU CAN HELP THANKS TESS
I am trying to trace my grandmothers roots to the Lee family.
My great grandfathers surname was Lee his wifes full name was : Helen Carruthers Blyth Hutchison.
My Grandmother Elizabeth Lee was born in New Street, Edinburgh, 1916.
We do have roots to the Romani/Romani Chal Gypsy family and I would like to know more about this.
If you do find any information I would appreciate it being forwarded to me.
Pauline
My grandmother claimed to a decendant of Gypsies. Her name was Elizabeth Rose Cooper b.23 Apr 1886 in Milbourne Port, Somerset.
Her father was George (1)(b.1863 in Milbourne Port, Somerset, d.1937), his father was also George (2)(b.1826 in Horsington, Somerset d.1883), and his father was Richard (b.1801 in Dorset, d.1851) who was married to Ann Elizabeth Parker b.1801.
For Elizabeth Rose I have found Birth, Marriage & Death records and census records for 1891 & 1901.
For George (1) I have Marriage records and census records for 1871-1901.
For George (2) I have Marriage & Death records and census records for 1841-1881.
For Richard I have a Death record and census record for 1841, he died shortly before the 1851 census was taken.
I would very much like to know if there are any other records available, perhaps going further back than Richard and Ann who had 3 sons, George, Joseph (1831) & Emanuel (1836).
Regards Janice.
hi m y name is henry hedges now my grandfather was walter hedges born about 1891 married olive upton i am trying to find brothers and sisters of his can any one help cheers
Gill in reply to your query regarding 'Polly Tottles' I think it was on a new site ? and i havent actually seen the article maybe it would be best to post a query on the site and then the siteowner could be of help to you .regards Sue.
"Fred Hodgkins 2010.2.5 21:45
Hi,i my wife was a webb, her mother was a virgo born on the common, her father was cornielous Virgo,her mother name metelda "
You notice that James VERGALL with wife matilda and son Cornelius are near the faily of Cornelius SMITh and Phebe Vergall is with a William Smith
While trying to find James on the 1881 census I came across Cornelius SMITH
1881RG11; Piece: 3109; Folio: 44; Page: 30 its BIDFORD Warwickshire and a very interesting one to liik at for the long comment made by the enumerator ending "I may add they gave the information most willingly and I think courtously"
Cornellius SMITH 48
Spezzanni 39
Carderilla29
Mosses 16
Isabella 12
MATILDA 10
William 8
Spezzanni4 Cornelius -
I wondered if this Matilda was James Vergall's wife
Sadly you may have answered my query so Vergall was Virgo and my theory about my ( L )(S )(V )abigall may not be a relation to James unlessyou know any thing about his parants & grandparents and are missing an Ann born 1781?
Yours in Hope
Hazel
Hi, I wonder if you can help please
Three of us are researching the Randle family of Hartlebury Worcestershire. We have a marriage for Ann LABIGAIL (or SAVIGAIL its hard to read the entry) in 1810 in Hartlebury. We can not find anything about Ann before the wedding and none of her family sign the marriage. We have failed to find any mention of the name or anything like it in the area which seems strange. Knowing the Heath was used by travellers we wondered if LABIGAIL was a Romany name?
I notice on the 1891 census you have listed some Vergall folk Is it possible that LABIGAIL was a form of this name?
From the 1841 census Ann would have been born in worcestershire and from the age given on her death was born about1780 /81
I do hope you can help solve the mystery
Thank you for a most interesting site you have worked very hard on it
Hazel
Dear Siteowner.
I have been given details of an article I would like to find it is JGLS (3) 1:19. It apparently describes 'Polly Tottles' and her fame. I can't find article and was wondering if you could help with this or information if you know about Polly born early 1800's, the daughter of a Smith and Lovell . Also, why she was a celebrity of Staffordshire.
Many thanks waggon wheels, the smith/ lee is still confusing but I'm working on it day and night (I know I'm so sad, thinking of doing a PHD in this stuff).
Please help; I am descended through the Hughes/Davis line but am having great trouble tracing my ancestors on this side. My great grandmother was Phoebe Davis born on the 31st March 1872, but she never knew where she was born just that her parents were gypsies and that she lived in a caravan. In 1893 she gave birth to a child (male) on Hastings Heath (could possibly be Haywards Heath) but he died at just three weeks old. After this Phoebe ran away to live with her sister (name unknown), her sister then gave birth in 1894, to possibly a girl Charlotte Hughes/Davis, or possibly a boy George Hughes/Davis, sadly the sister (name unknown) died a week after the child was born. I know I have not got a lot to go on but I am hoping that someone somewhere can help. Thanks.
Please help; I am descended through the Hughes/Davis line but am having great trouble tracing my ancestors on this side. My great grandmother was Phoebe Davis born on the 31st March 1872, but she never knew where she was born just that her parents were gypsies and that she lived in a caravan. In 1893 she gave birth to a child (male) on Hastings Heath (could possibly be Haywards Heath) but he died at just three weeks old. After this Phoebe ran away to live with her sister (name unknown), her sister then gave birth in 1894, to possibly a girl Charlotte Hughes/Davis, or possibly a boy George Hughes/Davis, sadly the sister (name unknown) died a week after the child was born. I know I have not got a lot to go on but I am hoping that someone somewhere can help. Thanks.
Hi,i my wife was a webb, her mother was a virgo born on the common, her father was cornielous Virgo,her mother name metelda
I've been researching my Lee family and have got back as far as Thomas LEE who married an Emily WHITE - they were married in 1851 in Mortimer, Berkshire. They had nine children and one of them was my great grandfather Andrew Lee (b. 1858 in Mortimer, Berkshire) - he died on 12th March 1914 in Kensington Infirmary where he'd lived for many years since fracturing his spine when his horse and carriage fell on top of him. He remained in a foetal position in bed for the next 14 years, or so. During this time he taught himself to sew and went on to make christening gowns for the Royal Family. Originally we did have a box (wooden?) with a plaque on it stating that the Royal Family were very grateful for the work he had done for them. Sadly this box was lost by my aunt after she took it to show her school mates and when she climbed over a style on the way home she left it there. My grandmother, Olive Maude Lee, went to find the box but sadly it had been taken by someone else. Andrew also made our family christening robes, and my cousin Jane has one of them, but they were for family use and not as ornate as the ones done for the Royal Family. Andrew married Emma Jane NICHOLLS who was born in 1855 in Luton, Bedfordshire. She died on 21 August 1935 and used to live in Spear Mews, Kensington where my father and aunt Olive used to visit. I'm told they were musicians and loved to sing and dance. Besides my grandmother, Olive Maude, there was Mabel Beatrice, Peggy, Andrew Adolphus, Maurice, Eva and Billy. My maternal step-grandfather was Arthur Smith and I'm also trying to find out more about him. He too had a horse and cart and used to sell greengrocery in and around Roehampton. I used to have all his horse brasses, but seem to have mislaid them. Thomas and Emily Lee and their offspring are listed on the 1861 Census. If anyone has further information I'd love to hear about it. Many thanks.
Hi
I'm also looking for any information on the Flint family. My great grandfather was Joseph Flint who lived in Sheffield during the 1920's,30's and early 40's.
hi have alexander lee born abt 1872 itchenhill kent married a jane russell nee emmett he was the brother of my great grandad frank mitchell small born abt 1881 rye sussex any information please as have come to a complete dead end both alexander and frank lived in chatham kent area around 1900s we know franks dads name was alexander lee as was on his wedding cert in 1899 but it said illegitimate son
All or any facts on the Redworth Family and connecting family links requested.
Am in the process of family tree records. Any information will be gratefully received
as also will be precise information. Birth-marrige-death dates also where possible
required.
I am Keith John Redworth
my father was Zachariah Benjamin Redworth -m- Sarah May Richards
His Father Zachariah Benjamin Redworth -m-to Rebecca Johnson
His father Zachariah Joseph Redworth - m - to Sarah Boswell
E-mail to jored4@hotmail.com
Thanks for any help you may be able to provjde.
Im looking for anyone with connections to the family of Ezekiel and Amy Locke nee Taylor (Ezekiel was the son of Matthew and Membrance ) they had a daughter born circa 1863 called Sabra she was my Great Grandmother, and i know very little about her Sabra married a Henry Bishop in 1884 in Ludlow Shropshire he was a Master Blacksmith and had a Smiths shop at Haytons Bent/Bitterley Shropshire Henry died in 1904 what happened to Sabra and her family after this i have no idea there was a son Henry born 1885, Lily and Annie born 1887 (TWINS) and my Grandmother Gertrude born 1889 they were all born at Haytons Bent/Stanton Lacy Shropshire. Sabra also had a large amount of Siblings one was Ezekiel who married a Ruth Taylor in 1913
I posted a message on this website sometime last year looking for members of the Bland family. My 2 x great grandparents were John and Eliza Bland. John was born in Marcham, Berks about 1836, Eliza (formerly Waite) In Kenterberry, Berks about 1846. John's parents were John and Rose (or Rosanna) Bland, John was born about 1788 in Marcham, Rose about 1790 in Chinor, Bucks. They were travelling basket-makers and the 1861 census lists them as living in a caravan on Kingwood Common, Peppard. John Bland and Eliza Waite and 6 children appear on the 1881 census as living in a tent in Smiths Orchard, Kingwood Common. Children were John 15, Oliver 13, Edwin 11, Catherine 9, Earnest 8, Arthur 2. John and Eliz a are hawkers, John jnr a farm labourer. My great grandmother, Mary Ann Bland is not listed, as I believe the census was always taken in April and she was born 3 June 1881. She told me she was of Romany descent. John Bland was Romany, Eliza Waite wasn't as far as I know, although I believe Waite is also a Romany surname. A couple of people contacted me with info, one a man called John. Unfortunately our hard drive crashed and I've lost all the info, photos, email addresses etc.
I know it was a long time ago, but if anyone remembers me could they please resend if possible.
I was told that there was a possible connection with the Jeff or Jeffs? family, and my ancestors may have originated from the New Forest area.
Thanks.
Janette
Hi
I'm looking for Pass Romany. My great grandmother was Clara Pass and her mother was Ada Pass. I,ve found them registered in Sheffield in the 1901 Census
looking for john cooper and his wife mary ann davies who lived around droitwich 1861, or his son Absolom Cooper who was a bell ringer around Chester area with his family 1881, john cooper was a Nailor by trade, had 4 sons and 2 daughters, absolom,samson,alfred ,john, sophia,later lovell, and janet (jane) later lovell as well , absolom put my wifes gran in the worhouse when she was 6 and she was brought up by another family member we believe in later life we think her sister mary ann took her in around liverpool area about 1890
HI MY NAME IS AMY SMITH=WAS A PENFOLD can you please tell me who put the photo on here of EDWARD (KINGIE) PENFOLD ,HE IS IN THIS PHOTO WITH SIX OTHER MEN AT A WEDDING,AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PHOTO IS A MESSAGE THAT READS,,,,TAKEN IN THE FORTY`S,IN DEVON, FROM LEFT TO RIGHT,WILLIE SMALL,,JOE PENFOLD,,JOHN JAMES,,BOB HARRIS,,?HIS WEDDING) EDWARD PENFOLD(KINGIE),,,BOB MANLEY. AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PHOTO IT SAYS AMYS WEDDING 001....IF ANY ONE CAN HELP AS I WOULD LIKE TO GET A COPY OF THIS PHOTO OF MY DAD KINGIE,, I AM THE DAUGHTER AMY OF EDWARD PENFOLD (KINGIE) FROM HAMPSHIRE;;;;;;; YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT CARTHORSEDOKEY@YAHOO.CO.UK THANKS OR YOU CAN RING ME ON 07763293007.... THANKS ....
hi diane just a bit more infomation on the upton family gran olive as you already know married walter hedges hersister alice married bill lamb rose married jack harris genty married bill smith elvey married joe soap jane married a smith also aman by the name of mills joby married a woman called p soap bill married jane lee jerry married a gorger dont know name hope this will help you speak to you soon you have my phone number
hi diane just a bit more infomation on the upton family gran olive as you already know married walter hedges hersister alice married bill lamb rose married jack harris genty married bill smith elvey married joe soap jane married a smith also aman by the name of mills joby married a woman called p soap bill married jane lee jerry married a gorger dont know name hope this will help you speak to you soon you have my phone number
hi diane just a bit more infomation on the upton family gran olive as you already know married walter hedges hersister alice married bill lamb rose married jack harris genty married bill smith elvey married joe soap jane married a smith also aman by the name of mills joby married a woman called p soap bill married jane lee jerry married a gorger dont know name hope this will help you speak to you soon you have my phone number
Can nyone help me locate artworks by Beshlie Heron?
Kind regards, LM
Hi everyone
I am a Penfold I have traced my family back to the end of 1700s( i stopped ) they were in general shipwrights although my Grandfather George came back to london greenwich/deptford area to marry sarah. They were flower sellers /money lenders my faher was the illegitimate child (1914)of Mary Penfold and james Morris Mary had 3 brothers George ,Charles ,Edward. does anything ring a bell.! Mary my Grandmotherdied 1n 1918 aged 21yrs found washed up in the Thames,she was a hawker,but became a munitions worker at Woolwich arsenal,
To Waggon wheel and Renee.
Many thanks for your help with Orlando. I have found a prison entry which said he got 126 mths for larceny, I think it must be the same man.
Do either of you know if he was actually married / mother of his children. It would be so much easier to go back further if I had her name.
I am sorry I can't help you, I don't know much yet.
hi carrie,,my name is tilda ,,i beleave you are trying to trace your great granparents george and caroline smith,, thay had a daughter may and a son george smith and so on,,,george smith is my grandfather on my mums side,,i have some old photos that you mite be intrested in ,,if so then please contact me by email, CARTHORSEDONKEY@YAHOO.CO UK or you can phone me on,, 07763293007 ,, i hope this helps you ,, from tilda
Hi Renee i have been chatting to gill about lander he is my ggg grandad through his girl Emily i have a coson whos grandfather was allso Edgar would love to chat through email just ask the site owner to pass my email my computer name is wagonweel the site owner nows lol. look farward to chatting and intraducing my self proper.
Re: Orlando Smith aka Lander Lee
I am the ggggranddaughter of Orlando Smith his son Henry is my gggrandfather Henry's son Edgar is my gfather and Edgars son Thomas Henry Smith is my father.
Orlando was christened 18 Jul 1834 Tamworth parents being Thomas Smith & Mary, Orlando died 20 Jan 1899 Lark Hill Farnworth Bolton Lancashire, only other info I have is he had been in prison twice 1st Derbyshire for stealing, 2nd Stafford for Highway offence.
Would be nice to hear from anybody with connections about this person.
Renee
To the person responding to Gill.
Concerning Orlando Lea/ Smith.
Have tried to email site owner and yourself from the link and my stupid computer won't play nicely, something about default mailer. Not very technical. I can't leave my email for various reasons could you ask for mine please or leave message here, very sorry.
its wagonweel:0)
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To Gill who posted bellow landa lee/Smith is my gg grandfather Email me and we can chat about Landa. all the best.
I am posting in the hope somebody can help me.
I am looking for any information about Orlando Smith, he was my grandfather x3. The only info I have is he was deceased before june 9th 1913 as it states this on Fuchsia Smith (his daughters wedding certificate).
I estimate he was born around the 1850s but I can't even be certain of this as Fuchsia is also difficult to find and the age on her wedding certificate is either 26 or 36.
His occupation was listed as Hawker, and all efforts have been made to find them on a census.
There is the added puzzle that I have contact with one elderly member of the family who can remember snippets but gets confused. She told me that the person I believe to be Orlando was Londa Smith who was a bare knuckle fighter, who had a stage name of Landa - Lee.
Can anybody confirm or deny this for me please.
If more details will help, the certificate I have is a wedding certificate of Fuchsia and Joseph Rogerson 1913. They were both residing at Ship Yard Warrington, both fathers were Hawkers, and the witnesses were William and Mary Rogerson. There are several other travellers living here or visiting on the 1901 census, it could be helpful to others.
If anyone can help I will appreciate it, as I don't even know an area for a birth so this avenue is not available either.
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I'm tracing my family tree on my mothers side,my grandmother was from a gypsie family her maiden name tate ,her fathers name was james thomas tate .But that is all i know except my grandmother got married in islington london to john ward in 1909 i would like to find out who my great grandparents were and where they were born here or ireland hope you can help me i'm at a dead end.
i am looking for anymore information on james boswell(bosvill) the king of the gypsys who is burried in st micheals church in my home villiage of rossington nr doncaster south yorkshire england,about who information from all sorces is verry limited,
james boswells grave has always held great importatce to our family although it is no loner understood why,
i would be very grateful for any assistance offered
hi diane the photos where great the ones of ruby i had never seen before the one of grt grandads funaral i have never heard of i am still putting togather photos plus dvd of my dad henry and uncle leonard standing with them is benny smith who was fathers best mate the rest of the people are the smiths who lived up the same road as gran i will also send a dvd of one of my daughters weddings that as my dad standing with her regards henry
I am looking for anyone that had contact with the Anthony Skrivan (Skrivanski) family that came to America early 1900s from Eastern Europe. Anthony had 2 brothers, Frank and Mike and settled in St Louis Missouri. Anthony was my grandfather. I would like to see if there are any other living relatives here or elsewhere that might be able to tell me something about my family.
Hi everyone,
i am hoping that some one may have a connection to any of the Doe's that live in Worthing, West Sussex, they are connected to me family but i can not work out how, i think they belong to a Mark Doe born 1891 tunbridgewells, kent, who on his WW1 record stated he was a horse dealer, i think he may of married a Rosie mary Jones (poss born 1905 ) in 1920's in brighton, but i cant place this mark doe any where in my tree, if know any of them, please get in touch, regards stephen doe
l am lookng for edward marney born 1858 epsom common surrey l have found him in the 1901 census but am looking for his parents,l know he had sisters laura,,betsy ,joanna and also brothers not sure of their names. some of them lived in the merton mitcham areas. they may have worked sometimes at the fairs.
l am also lookin for arren smith and daliah cooper the parents of billy smith sometimes called (billy patterson} born 1858 who was married to celia williams they lived in wardley st wandsworth. l know daliah lived with her son sam smiths family in the 1920s at queens rd (rocky redskin villiage mitcham surrey as the local people called it}
this is both sides of my mothers family so l would be gratefull for any help in completing my tree thankyou
diana my email is henhedges@yahoo.co.uk
Hi Henry, I have emailed Leonard and let him know about the picture but I dont hold out much hope as Martha is no longer with us and it could be anywhere. Thanks very much for putting those pics together for me it is much appreciated. If you give me your e-mail address I can send you some pictures that I have saved on my computer including the last one of your Aunt Olive taken 6 months before she died. Regards Diane
diana i have spoken to brenda my wife and she has told me that marther girl leonards sister had sisters photo the only other one ihave got is my aunt ruby sisters sister i am putting photos togather put ting them in post this week
Hi Henry
Same road about 15 doors away, Alan can remember you coming down in an army wagon with Pip Taylor an ex army boxer who is now a Chelsea Pensioner. Sadly Ted died 2 years ago, he had a fall and broke his hip went into hospital and died on the operating table. I have emailed your cousin Leonards son Leonard about "sisters" picture but he says he hasnt seen it and he dad says he doesnt have it either, however Len jr is going to ring his dad and ask him again. I do so hope it can be tracked down, it is so important to Alan. It is such a shame that
Olive and the family didnt have much contact, Alan says that I am piecing the family back together again.
Regards
Diane
hi diana something i wanted to know is this the same addres where uncle ted and sister lived if so i came there when i was in the army witha old army buddy he lived a few doors up i cant remember his name he would be about my age 73 if he does would say hello
Hi Henry
Thanks for getting back to me so soon, it sounds like a great community that you live in, no shortage of stories i'll bet. My address is 29 Orchard Road, Shifnal, Shropshire TF11 8EX. We cant wait to see the pictures. I will e-mail Leonard about Olives picture, do you know when she was alive she tried for many years to get hold of it or at least a copy, and we have been trying to find out since she died but only having contact with Rita made it hard it means so much to Alan. We noticed that you called her sister that is nice that she is still known by that, she said thats what all her family called her. When she came to Shifnal for some reason she called herself Joan and thats what she was known by down here, not many people knew her name was Olive it was a shock to many at her funeral. Shall look forward to our next conversation. Regards Diane
diana one of grans sisters genty married a chap called anderson and her grandson seaman anderson lives 2 doors up from me her other sister married bill smith thier son billy smith who is about 80 also lives about half mile away there is also phylis grant who lives on the thistlebrook traverler site in abbey wood she was aunt janes daughter she also had jimmy and billy known as billy blue my grandaughter charlene who had a baby girl yesterday is also with a anderson name tom as you may know belvedere is full of us gypseys and we all know each other very well to name afew like boswell lee beany anderson smith dieghton scamps hildens so you can see there is a wealth of information if there is some why we can exchange phone or address i have lots of photos plus films dvd of my dad and uncle leonard and cohereusin jack the only photo i had of sister as i new her was given to young leopnard it shoud olive in uniform i hope some of this helps
Hi Henry,
Thats great news about your grans brothers and sisters, where did you find that info out I've searched everywhere to see if there was more. Do you have dates for them. That would be brilliant if you could send some pics your Aunt Olive hardly had any, do you have any of her when she was younger, I dont know if you remember her she was so sad that she didnt have more contact with her family but she had no way to come and visit she thought the world of your dad she was always talking about "My Henry", she was ill with cancer when she came to his funeral and died in June 96. Alan is chuffed to bits that we are in touch, he remebers you slightly when you was young, but hasnt seen the family since he was about 10 he is now 58! Speak soon Take care Diane
upton hi diane gran olive as you know was a upton her father was joeseph she had sisters name of alice genty rose jane elvey and two brothers as i know joby and bill there could have been more but i havant found them yet my dad henry was married to my mum pashie carey as you may know they had three children myself alice who was killed age five and joyce who lives in australia for the past twenty eight years i have traced the carey family back to 1812 so trying to do three trees at one time is hard i have a lot of photos and i will try and email them to you send them soon henry
Hi Henry, Hope you and yours had a a great new years too. As you probably know your Aunt Olive had 4 boys Alan (My husband) Billy, Micheal and Stephen, sadly Billy died in 2001 but your 3 other cousins are fine and well. Alan did not know about Pop and Jack although he knew about Pauline through Rita and Johnny who we keep in touch with. As Olive moved from London so many years ago she lost touch with her family so Alan didnt see anyone from London since he was a little boy only Miah and Dora and Rita and Johnny, although I believe that she got back in touch with your dad in later years, sadly she died the year after your dad. Do you have any family pics as Alan has only got a few that your cousin Leonards son Leonard have sent us. Any way back to Walter he had 2 brothers James and Jeremiah and 7 sisters Rose Alvey, Mary, Sarah Anne,Elvas, Jane and Caroline on your grans side I can only find 2 sisters Rose and Alice. Will definitly keep in touch speak to you soon. Regards Diane
h i diana hope you and your family had a great new year i have been doing the hedges family tree but i cant find any brothers or sisters for my grandfather walter my dad always spoke about his uncle bill but was that walters brother or grans brother i dont know as you may know we lost many of our cousins three in uncle ocka family jack pop and pauline any please keep in touch here from you soon
Hi
I am lookng for details of my mothers family Caroline neé Windsor m George Smith had several children Sairey Ann, Ned, George, May (my Granny b 1913) Caroline (twin to May died 1918 worplesdon) If anyone has any information would love to hear it. I note on the website that University of Liverpool appear to have a photo of my Granny May and her sister Sairy Ann does anyone know how I would go about getting a copy? thanks
S.J.DAY
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I am interested in information about my Cooper and Parmer or Palmer decendants. My Grandmother's Grandmother was named Margaret Zana Cooper. Her Father was named Isaac H. Cooper and her Mother was named Rhoda Parmer or Palmer (there is some disagreement as to which way it was spelled). Isaac was born Oct. 10 1803 in Baltimore MD. USA. Isaac possibly moved to Ohio sometime before he married because he married Rhoda there in Licking Co. Ohio and later moved to Indiana and then to Texas. His father Stephen C. Cooper was born Feb. 5, 1778 also in Baltimore and married a woman named NancyHarlan born Dec. 14, 1781 also born in Maryland. Stephen Cooper's father also named Stephen was born in England. We have no other information aout the family other than this. Do the dates seem way to early for a Roma family to be in the USA? Certainly this far down the line we have very little information about a Gypsy background as the family assimilated into the American culture very soon it seems. Any information would be very appreciated. Thanks, Becky