Devon & Somerset Family Connections

Devon & Somerset Family Connections

 The West Country Families obviously have many connections to the Dorset and Hampshire Romanies as well as Wiltshire and Berkshire, all bordering one another these families were travelling back and forth and married into each other's families many times .A good example being the Penfold /Orchard/Davis/Hughes/Saunders and many more ,so I will try and give a brief outline and various snippets to illustrate this.

 During the course of my research I have come across many lines that have have criss crossed from one family to anoyther many times and in the course of this also various names they used for example in the 1871 Census for Chipstable Somerset Robert Hughes along with his wife Sarah Davis were using the surname Jones (another Romany family also connected) the following 1881 and 1891 they are using the Hughes surname again it is the same family as the childrens names and ages all match up,see below :-

Some of the main families who seem to have centered in Somerset, Devon and Cornwall but also Dorset and all the bordering

Conties are, Burton/Isaacs/Penfolds/Small/Orchards/Hughes/ Davis to name a few, and as they married into one another many times it can be very confusing when trying to pin point what "Noah" or Leonard belongs to who! The Hughes and Penfolds were also in Dorset and Hampshire as well and seemed to travell all the South west Counties but I have also found them in London at times no doubt visiting relatives in the big Gypserie's at Wandsworth or Battersea . Like some of the Small family who settled in Devon and yet were at some point in the Channel Islands!so you really do have to search all Counties and even Countries for your folki!!

1871 Census RG10-2359-42-17 Chipstable Somerset.

Name AgeBirthplace Relationship

Robert Jones52 Honiton, Devon, Head Travelling Gipsies

Sarah Jones48 Gloucestershire, Wife

Charles Jones25Chard, Somerset, Son

Robert Jones20 Curry Rival, SomersetSon

Joey Jones16Honiton, Devon, Son

Tilly Jones12 Devon, Daughter

Fiance Jones10 Devon, daughter

Vashty Jones7 Bishops Lydeard, Somerset Daughter

John Jones6 Wellington, SomersetSon

Lenard Jones3 Honiton, Devon, Son

Sarah Jones1 Williton, Somerset, Daughter

Caroline Radman 28 Somerset, Daughter

Henry Radman5 Langford, Somerset, Grandson

in Tents, Old Way."

*

 1881 British CensusDwelling: Hawkwell Cross 2 (Caravan)

Census Place: Dulverton, Somerset

Source: FHL Film 1341567 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2358 Folio 63

Robert HUGHS M 60 Honiton, Devon, Occ: Licensed Hawker


  The Jones family Dorset (Courtesy Philpot Museum Lyme Regis

Sarah HUGHS M 58 Rel: Wife Occ: Licensed Hawkers Wife

Robert HUGHS U son 28 Langport, Somerset Occ: Basket Maker

Joseph HUGHS son U 26 Honiton, Devon Occ: Basket Maker

Tilla HUGHS dau U 22 Taunton, Somerset,

Fiance HUGHS dau U 20 Honiton, Devon

Bashte HUGHS dau U 18 Taunton, Somerset

John HUGHS son U 16 Wellington, Somerset Occ: Basket Maker

Lenard HUGHS 14 son Honiton, Devon

Sarah HUGHS dau 11 Wellington, Somerset

Robert PEARCE M 52 Taunton, Somerset Lodger Occ Decorator

Henry C. OATEN 39 Taunton, Somerset Rel Lodger Occ Decorator

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1891 Census, RG12-1677-20-11

Name Age Birthplace Relationship Civil parish/County

Hughes Robert 69 Honiton, Devon Head Aylesbeare Devon

Hughes Sarah 63 Gloucestershire Wife Aylesbeare Devon

Hughes Joseph 36 Gloucestershire Son Aylesbeare Devon

Hughes Leonard 24 Offwell, Devon Son Aylesbeare Devon

Hughes Sarah 21 Wellington, Somerset Daughter Aylesbeare Devon.

 As yet I have been unable to locate the above family in the earlier Census ? has anyone ?if so maybe you can help me further :-

The Jones family who married into the Hughes family were obviously already connected and seems why Robert above was using the surname in 1871.

 Robert Jones b 1851 was the son of Robert jones and possibly Diana Bull I found a marriage for them in 1847 Newbury Berks,however Robert also had another later Bull wife who was with him in the 1901 Census:- Update**i now think this is another Robert and not the same one as was with Keziah Bull!! the Robert Jones aka Hughes was married to Sarah Davis so help anyone??

1901 Census, RG13-1119-6-3 Baughurst Hampshire.

Robert Jones 83 Bucklebury, Berkshire Head Hawker

Keziah Jones 61 Salisbury, Wiltshire Wife Hawker

Stoney Heath Kingsclere."

Son of Robert above married Priscilla Hughes in 1872 Binstead Hampshire see Census below:-

 1881 Census, RG11-2093-62-35 Wimborne Minster.

Robert Jones35 Not KnownHead Gipsy Hawker

Priscilla Jones34 Not KnownWife Gipsy Hawker

Susan Jones8 Not KnownDaughter Gipsy

Rhoda Jones6 Not KnownDaughter Gipsy

Charles Jones3 Not KnownSon Gipsy

Diana Jones1 Not Known Daughter

William Jones16 Not KnownServant Hawker

Tent, Barnsley Drove

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 1891 Census, RG12-951-113-5 Wield, Hampshire.

Jones, Robert 38Bucklebury Head Dealer

Jones, Priscilla 39Cranbourne Wife

Jones, Susan 17Binstead, HampshireDaughter

Jones, Rhoda 15Stoke Daughter

Jones, Charles 13Cranbourne Son

Jones, Diana 9Wield, Hampshire Daughter

Jones, Priscilla 5Wield, Hampshire Daughter

Jones, Robert 2Wield, Hampshire Son

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1901 Census, RG13-1099-120-5 Wield, Hampshire.

Robert Jones 47 Baughurst, HampshireHead General Dealer

Priscilla Jones 49 Blandford, Dorset Wife Hawker

Susan Jones 27 Binsted, Hampshire Daughter Hawker

Rhoda Jones 25 Chichester, Sussex Daughter

Priscilla Jones 15 Chertsey, Surrey Daughter

Robert Jones 13 Wield, Hampshire Son

Henry Jones 6 Wield, Hampshire Son

Edward Hughes 25 Sherborne, Dorsetnephew Deaf & Dumb."

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 1851 Census., HO107-1878-12-17 Plymouth St Andrew.

Name AgeBirthplace RelationshipOccupation

Moses Small50 Dorset, Head Tinker

Cinderella Small50 Dorset, Wife (Nee Cooper)

Jonas Small22 Dorset, Son Basket Maker

Moses Small13 Somerset, Son

Uriah Small11 Exminster Son

Gully Small9Devon, Son

Henry Small7 Devon, Son

Angelina Small5 Devon, Daughter

Kinity Small3 Devon, Daughter

Louisa Small1 MnthDevon, Daughter

84 Stonehouse Lane

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 1881 Census, RG11-2165-46-28 Wolborough, Devon.

(They also had a Henry b 1857)married Cinderella)

 (not shown is Joshua b 1863 wed Patience Orchard)

Moses Small44 Taunton Head Horse Dealer

Caroline Small 44 Honiton, Devon Wife Brush Dealer

Sophia Small24 dau Newton Abbot (Married George Silmon)

Margaret (Marcella) Small 17 Plymouth Dau (mar William Voisey)

Louisa Small16 Plymouth, Devon, Dau(mar William Hutchins)

Market St Caravan No 1, Next to Henry & Cinderella Small."

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 1891 Census, RG12-1682-9-12 St Thomas, Devon.

Small, Moses 56 Taunton, Somerset Head Horse Dealer

Small, Caroline 55 Wellington, Somerset Wife

Small, Eliza 8 Newton Abbot Dau (wed/ Henry Stanley)

Small, Naylor 16 Torpoint, Cornwall Son

Small, Moses 15 Newton Abbot, Devon Son

Small, Belcher12 Newton Abbot Son (Mar/ Patience Orchard)

Small, John 9 St Thomas, Devon Son

1901 Census, RG13-2038-7-6 St Thomas, Devon.

Name AgeBirthplace RelationshipOcupation

Moses Small65 Taunton, Somerset, Head Horse Dealer

Naylor Small29 Darpont, Cornwall Son Horse Dealer

John Small20 St Thomas Exeter DevonSon Horse Dealer

Eliza Silmon15 St Thomas Exeter DevonGranddaughter

Princess St North, Exeter.

 RG11-2358-112-14 Huish Champflower Dulverton Somerset

Edward aged 40 born 1841 Pitminster

Sophia aged 34 born 1844 NK

Affiana aged 14 born 1867 NK

Sarah aged 12 born 1869 NK

Peter aged 11 born 1870 NK

Henry aged 10 born 1871 NK

Samuel aged 4 born 1877 NK

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1871 census RG10-2167-70-11 Langford green In Vans

With Edwin Orchard is family also Orchards

Thomas Orchard 39 Hawker of brushes & baskets b Salisbury Wilts

Charlotte 33 Wife born Devizes wilts

Ann S 8 Culmstock Devon

John 5 Pitminster somerset

Defiance 3 Dalwood Devon

Edwin 1mth Wellington somerset

(This is Edward Orchard who married Christiana Woodley Hunt)

Edward Orchard born 1795 Baydon Wiltshire 1881 Census RG11-2363-9--11In Culmstock Hillmoor Wellington Devon

Widow aged 86 Basket maker ( on his own)Edward Orchard 1796-1888 died aged 92 Wellington Somerset

1861 CENSUS*RG9/Vans, Gillingham, Wiltshire

James Isaacs 38 Licensed Hawker All born Dorset Marnel?

Trinity 36 Licensed Hawker

Henery 16 Licensed Hawker

Jane 14 Licensed Hawker

Allace 12

Delia 10

John 8

Mary 6

Betsey 4

Lewesa 3

Victoria 1

Anna 4mo

Henery Isaacs brother 36 Licensed Hawker

Harriet 30

James 3?

Caraline 4

Ellen 2

Could "Marnel" be Marnhull, Dorset? In 1851 theres an Edward Isaacs, age 29 Matmaker b. Dorset Marnhull, a prisoner in North Street County Prison, Lewes, Sussex. Brother of James and Henery maybe? HO107/1643 Folio 482 Page 61

1871* Penselwood Somerset

Agusta Isaacs 2 b Penselwood, Somerset

Annie Isaacs 10 b Purse Caundle, Dorset

Delilah Isaacs 21 lic/hawker b Everton, Dorset

Elizabeth Isaacs 18 b Mere, Wiltshire

James Isaacs 48 Horse dealer b Broad Hinton, Wiltshire

John Isaacs 16 b Sturminster, Dorset

Louisa Isaacs13 b Bere Regis, Dorset

Mary Ann Isaacs15 b Penselwood, Somerset

Morris Isaacs 7 b Penselwood, Somerset

Sampson Isaacs 5 b Penselwood, Somerset

Thomas Isaacs 9 b Bourton, Dorset

Tranet Isaacs 47 b Thatcham, Berkshire

Victoria Isaacs 11 b Bourton, Dorset

1881 CENSUS*Penselwood Somerset

James Harding 77 Harwell, Berks F/ IN LAW Pedler (widow)

Arabella Isaacs 20 pedler

Augusta Isaacs 12 pedler

Delilah Isaacs 30 pedler

James Isaacs 59 b Broad Hinton, WiltshireHorse Dealer

Janet Isaacs 57 Horse Dealer Wife

Mary Ann Isaacs 25 pedler

Morris Isaacs17 Horse Dealer

Samson Isaacs15 Horse Dealer

Thomas Isaacs19Horse Dealer

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1891 CENSUS.Stoke Trister County/Island: Somerset

(WITH OTHER HAWKERS HICKS AND ISAACS)

Frederick Askett17 Lodger b Gillingham, Dorset

Annie M Hicks8 gran/daughter b Newbury, Berkshire

Augusta Isaac 22 b Leigh Common Somerset

James Isaac69 b Broad Hinton, Wiltshire

Janet Isaac67 b Thatchem Berks

Samson Isaac25

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